The Webley or RWS 34 would probably have been too powerfull for the backyard. That could be the problem. If I could get two bottles and take them to a dive shop periodically that would seem like the best option for me. Thats as close to a 392 as I can come. i read the manual and i have the right oil but i still dont understand where to oil it. I have takenabout 4 squirrels no problem all with good shot placement of course, but overall do you feel the 397 has good power for small game hunting? You need to call Pyramyd Air and talk to a customer representative. The 392 is the .22 caliber version of the gun, while the 397 is the .177. thanks for the replies. At close range (under 20 yards) they are fine, but I would use a diabolo at longer ranges. Yes, store your gun with one pump of air. The forearm has a very pronounced beavertail swelling where the hand grabs to pump the rifle. Im considering returning the diasy and exchanging it for a blue streak or a 392. Posted by 24 days ago. Im looking at getting a good multi pump rifle for squirrel hunting. Most of the positions I held the rifle in had at least one good or semi-good quality to it, and most had an almost random seeming scatter of pellets. Development in the woods nearby drove hundreds of rats in all directions. You sure do like to prepare for the worst. I happen to own an AS392T and I like it a lot. Thomas. You know, this is too good a topic not to do a posting. but it would be square peep hole. Testing the effects of my valve mods.Here's where you can get one, plus ammo and accessories: http://amzn.to/1Olyf16 Thanks for the information and advice; I will return it but I'm wary about getting another 392. I read somewhere that if oyu do not do this the valve alignment can prematurely get screwed up. I did have a few BB guns as a kid but was not all that interested other than making a serious dent in the cottonmouth population in my small hometown. 150 dollars is a lot of money (for me) and get many ideas of wat else i can buy with it( i guess im an impulse shopper) what is the izhs accuracy at about 30-40 yards? I am glad I did not pay the extra for the easy-pump modification. Thats why they dont mention it. In one year, Id like you to repeat this test. Thomas. Oddly enough, I went to the Crosman website, and neither of its newest 392 or 397 manuals have the lateral sight instructions. I was now getting 2 inch groupings! Hope you can offer your likes /dislikes about this rifle. I have a new powerful pellet gun and nowhere to safely or easily shoot it! Take care. Thats it. I tried shooting with a firm and loose grip in three different spots. sorry but one more question. The Benjamin Models 397 and the 392 have roots dating back to 1949. Just sent a detailed blog, and because I cant do the verification BS, Its lost in where ever, and Really exaspirating too!! Gas vs Spring Piston: Which One is Better? When it goes bang, thats a detonation.). Sorry for all the questions, but the more I look at it the more I want and I am getting way beyond my original need. This gun is a great choice. my home range is about 30 yards, so i wanted to see downrange, however if you think a peep sight would be better id follow your advise. A Gamo Shadow would be as good as a 392, but they were recently recalled by Gamo. I have number 142 of the 500 that are going to be made. Can you recommend a good quality spring piston for under $250 that is appropriate for someone who is newly interested in the hobby? The best pellet for your gun is the JSB Exact domed pellet. Im going to get a pistol scope or a Red Dot scope. ql. . Word verification is software provided by Blogger. Six pumps on slopeThe best group I got out of all my shots was 1 and 7/16 inches, which I got by firmly holding onto the slope (average of 2 and 3/16 inches). As long as you are buying used, there is a whole world of opportunity out there. BB, I will pass on the Bam 30 advicelets try not to contribute to the China trade deficit when we can help it. over the weekend i saw a benjamin 392 airsource (uses co2) on sale for 109.99. wow. i forgot that i had stored a pump of air in the rifle and pumped it seven more times, then i pulled the pump handle open and realized that it would be the ninth pump. I have no doubt you can handle either rifle, but the way you want to use it, Id get the Daisy. i know that i will be able to pump up the gun, and i still dont want the co2 392, my mom is trying to get an izh 61 or benjamin 392 for me for Christmas (she found a Benjamin 392 but she couldnt see the pump handle! The green monofiliment in the front sight kept blurring/reflecting light into the scope, so I slid it out of the sight. Theyre very well defined and after pumping the gun for a while they begin to get uncomfortable to hold. As such, I packed it up, and back to PyramidAir it went. I would highly recommend this air rifle to any adult looking for quiet power to hunt small game. Trying to find a repair or restoration parts for a 1960s Benjamin Franklin pellet rifle 177cal. I would only really use the 8.5g ones for hunting once in awhile because of their increased veloicity and penetration. At least thats what I have heard. my 392 holds that pump for years. the rear sight has broken off. But after another round with the cans, I turn them on their side and aim to the bottom of each can, and guess what?!?! RE: Crosman 392 PA advice. Thanks.Dav. Still pretty accurate, Im 60 now will be passing it to my grandson when he turns 16 in about 8 years. its http://www.myspace.com/airgunsniperthanks bb. At Wal Mart you should be able to find Benjamin Sheridan diabolo pellets. Will 23 have the 392 or will they take advantage of the anniversary of the Rubicon by launching the Hurricane 3.0L. The German ones are great. Also, other than caliber and stock shape, are there any differences now? so ive got eight pumps worth of air in the gun and the pump handle is open. Nod. Pyramyd Air invites you to call them if you are having trouble understanding the directions. And they wont burn a whole in your wallet either!! It would be cheaper to eliminate this swelling, but they keep it because it makes pumping easier. Thomas, It happenned again!?!? Like I sayed before, since I only shoot small game and Natural Lites, I feel the scopes I use are adequite for my needs. It has started to get smoother. That way the scope knobs can be centered and the mounts will account for the aim-off you need to get sighted in. Thanks, Thomas, Hey BB, I did for get one thing. Its been raining frequently and there has been very gusty wind so i havent been able to shoot for a couple days. You can find out more about how we use them in the privacy policy. Heres something, the barrel of my 392 had black paint in the end that I removed with q-tips and nail polish remover ok Ive got plenty of time on my hands. The third was as far forward as I could comfortably hold the rifle and shoot, which was right on the slope of the pump lever (my palm was right on the sloping area). There are a couple of different listings on online retailed websites with different prices I think the JSBs will do best, but Kodiaks (yes Beeman Kodiaks are there any others?) The factory mount isnt even seated in the rear of the dovetail, so it will only be a matter of time before itll have to be adjusted/tightenned. Flexible Coating From warehouse floor paint to metal railings, COMMAND offers resistance to cracking and peeling while bending, moving, expanding or contracting. I have not tried a 397 with an extra-heavy pellet. Loosely holding got me 3 and 13/16 inches (average 3 and 15/16 inches). The Bug Buster looks like it would fit the dove tailed receiver, perfectly. What scope would you recommend (other than Crosmans)?Thanks! Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. Which front screws do I tighten and loosen to get the aim more to the right? Thats it, I will leave you alone. Aaaagh!!! A rifled barrel makes abullet spin. But its a fine airgun. Thats just a play on the company name. I have a late 60s model 312 and on the left side, below the bolt, it says Benjamin Franklin.By the way there is a potential problem with several older airguns and they are offering $50.00 credit toward the purchase of a 392 or a 397. Hold it on top of the barrel at that point. The culprit is the intermounts. Well I have concluded my tests, and I must say Im surprised. It is still in the original box I saved and I found a receipt from 1986 when I mailed it back to Benjamin factory (pre-Crosman) for repair and re-bluing ($32.00 for all that!!!). Be careful as they are springy and hold tight an the barrel solder line can crack under too much strain. BB,Wow thanks for the quick reply. So for all the joints, Id suggest a common household oil. That isnt easy, but the BAM B26 is one solution, and the B40 is an even better one. I shaved the b-square attachment part of the benjamin 392. Try the airgun fit-it stations listed in this blog: /blog/2005/7/co2-and-pneumatic-guns-where-to-get-them-fixed/, great site not very web savy, so I just found it , Ive got an old pneumatic in .20 that I believe to be a sheridan, but its unmarked except the end cap with the thumb depress safety, which says hold down to fire. Not only does the gun shoot like new, he didnt mess up the vintage finish on a significant collectible while he did the work! What do you think would be a good diameter for the peep hole? The current model doesnt really match up in quality as I remember. After a week of doing my research, I decided that the Benjamin would be the most practical rifle for our needs. Only in a gun store that carries a wide line of airguns. Some review that I read said it wasnt that loud comparing with gamo shadow 1000. I remember what an ordeal getting it was! There is also a 6power Bug Buster 2, so look at that, as well. I have the 397 and plan on getting a 392 in the near future. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. George PenaGeorge is a Texan who fixes American pneumatics. They were the only .22 pellets in my town other than some horribly old and deformed daisy wadcutters in a Fleet Supply store. over twenty years ago as a young teen it was a pretty good back then. I know youre on a budget, but you cant shoot for free. Just a hint for those that use this sight in low light, unscrewing the aperture to remove it will turn this sight into a ghost-ring! YOU MUST BE 18 YEARS OR OLDER TO BUY ANY AIR GUN OR AIR RIFLE IN OUR STORE. It comes with a nice scope that must be worth at least $70.00. I know this is a lot of questions but I am a complete novice when it comes to air guns. It still looks great and I think it is time to fire it again after sitting in the closet for 18 years. no one else well be down there and i have safety glasses. The Talon SS is one of the quietest precharged air rifles available. Which would you recommend for any given circumstance and why. Thats established because there are club guns with that kind of wear on them. I exchanged the gun for another one off the shelf. I decided to exchange it after checking for and discovering more run away pellets with open sights. Can you help me. ( Beeman H&N Match ) It would be a grand annoyance if you have tore adjust the scope settings each time you changed the number of times it was pumped !What do ya think ? I own a 397 and I am pleased with everything about it. If I got the Scuba Refill clamp would I just find a dive shop or would I need to buy my own tank? You dont TYPE links! so i took the gun out for some shooting. Benjamin 392 & 397. My wadcutters I had been using before were more deformed but more accurate at every distance and power variation! I write 30-60 comments every day, seven days a week, so I had to learn this trick to survive. Six pumps on leverMy best grouping while I held firmly on the pump lever was 4 and 2/16 inches (average 3 and 15/16 inches). thats what i would like to do with it. But most of the time I shoot standing on back patio five yards back,.hang with me BB, Im going somewhere with this ok. With a couple of cement blocks and a 44 of western cedar, I line up four water filled aluminum cans 6 apart, with those little bright orange stickers you see in the produce section at the grocery store, slapped right in the middle of them. I bought a new bolt, cleaned the paint and recrowned the barrel. Visit Our Help Center Email To Friend Specifications Q&A Reviews (26) Product Overview Human error affects the groupings quite a bit for me! Neither Walmart nor the BPS had the silicon chamber oil much less pellgun oil. 4.4 average based on 9 product ratings. While observing the breech, I did notice that the rubber sealing ring was uneven in its seat,.nothing drastic, but am I safe to assume this is because of the breaking action and closing like a hinge (hittin one side before the other?) 3. If I upgraded to JSB exacts and mounted the bug buster, do you think I could expect this to shrink into the .5 range or am I being too hopeful? Thanks for thinking I know the answer to this, but I dont. No effect on performance or accuracy. Its probably held up better over the years than I have.Thanx any response would be great Rowdy. Put your cursor on top of that word and click once. The 397 does not allow for left-right adjustment, so if the rifle is slightly off one way you must aim off to compensate. im still trying to get a benjamin 392, ive checked almost all pawn shops around 30 miles from my house, my parents wont drive me to any gun shows, and they wont put any credit card numbers on the internet for fear that someone will hack it and take their money. A Beeman R1 or HW 80 works well with a peep sight. Had to get a special scope mount, which works great, but its annoying to not have attachment points built in. Its practically the same rifle. At eight pumps they go straight through with the same size hole coming out as went in. I have stumbled upon them before, but i didnt really think id use them alot. Do I need theB272 inter mount? Crosman bought both companies years ago and the two rifles have slowly morphed together into essentially the same gun. View Profile View Forum Posts Private . I cant say that I have much experience doing that, but a few odd sounds would not surprise me. For Benjamin 392, various shooting tests have been conducted by different shooters with positive results. A go-to solution for interior/exterior projects, COMMAND works on metal, masonry, vinyl, drywall, tile, PVC and much more. Poor womans 411!! They did fall below target but Id expect that being slightly heavier that the crosmans. Spinstabilizespellet, improves accuracy, and enhances shooting range. Remember, Im just a kid offering advice, B.B. I assume this is normal since the gun is only a day old and seems to function fine but I just wanted to make sure. I think that I might have to remove the rear sight in order to get a clear peep hole, but then again maybe not. I plan to use the Weaver B-square scope base for the Benjamin blue streak and accushot 2 piece 1 weaver rings. They make the gun too hard to pump. Just received my purchased 397 and it is a sturdy rifle that Im sure going to enjoy. On Feb. 4th 06 Doug called his 1960s pellet rifle a Benjamin Franklin. Also the threads in the mount mounting holes didnt hold up.I really had my heart set on putting that bug buster on it and pumping it with the scope wasnt too bad so Im gonna try the crossman intermount before giving up on it entirely. It has an angle bracket that screws into two screws to the side of the receiver of the 392/397, A standard Williams Peep sight with dove tail mounting will not easily adapt to the 392/397. so low that the front sight is just below the slot in the rear site. Hold the gun with the right hand as close the the pump arm joint as possible. B.B.,I am a typical newbie that needs a inexpensive rifle to take care of some pests but also would like something that will be accurate, well made and fun to use. Just read through your blog after the 397 was recommended by a store. Did you know there is an active discussion taking place on the current blog. The Benjamin is a classic design to say the least. No airgun is better (in this price range at least)!!!! Like everything else, metal expands and contracts with temperature and barometric variances (sp???). My wife took posession of my Blue Streak when rats invaded out house. Yesterday, one of my coworkers brought in a older 22 caliber Benjamin that he wanted me to research on the internet. I love my Sheridan Silver Streak C9. I never get a clear circular sight through it. Open the pump handle and drop four drops of oil on the pump head that just becomes visible at the end of the pump slot when the pump handle is all the way open. The question then arises, with my current stock gun, what do you think is the maximum range that a pellet could penetrate a chucks skull? Shoot the rifle at a target about 20 yards away. Thanks for the information on it which helped make my decision to purchase F Nash. . I recently bought a Benjamin 392 LE # 359 of 500 . The value of the gun ranges from $40 in working condition and no finish up to $200 with all the original black nickle over silver nickle and in a good box. I like the finish on the silver streak but the 20 cal pellets arent locally available so thats a bit of a limitation. Also, try five pumps or six instead of the maximum. It seems to me that the peep sight hole would just be bigger and blurrier. Sometimes the bolts are so stiff that they dont move as readily. It sounds like you have stripped the screw threads from the holes. I have shot several halfr-inch groups, but they are always special. Can you recommend any particular blog on the 3/8 inch dovetail rail mount installation? If the accuracy is as respectable as my Gamo Shadow 1000, thats fine. So far all the BAM rifles Ive tested have been accurate, so this one, which is a copy of the RWS Diana 48, seems like an ideal choice. Many inexpensive peep sights ate mostly plastic, so charge on! George Pena in TX. Shooting mostly from 20-30 yds with occasional shot out to 35-40 yds. I cant say enough about this rifle. Congratulations! Benjamin 392 .22 caliber air rifle (retail $209.99) UTG True Hunter 3-940 Illuminated Reticle Scope with Rings (retail $114.97) Baker Airguns Benjamin One-Piece Scope Mount (retail $50.00) Benjamin Discovery .22 cal 14.3gr Hollowpoint Pellets (retail $14.99) Total Retail Value of $389.95, save $39.96 when you buy the Ready To Hunt Package! But when you get used to it, it will become second nature and you can do it without a second thought. ), I bought a sampler pack of RWS pellets at the bass pro shop outside Knoxville, while on the road, and when I got home I tried them on both my springer and old reliable 397, and I must say I was impressed. He now shares his income from this prestigious job with his wife and one kid. Yes, definitely keep a pump of air in you 392 at all times. Crosman has a Williams Peep sight made expressly to mount on the 392/397. 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