Can't find what you're looking for? Creates the smallest file on disk. The selected and all child browser nodes. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. It might help to set the subassembly_A and subassembly_B files to read-only before starting this process, just to be safe. Part now has mass updated, but assembly does not. Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum. More is the case that also if the file is not updated and already released, it will write the mass to calculate. And, the assemblies will need to be recomputed. If you have any questions do not hesitate to ask. If all you want is a dumb solid (not editable one after the translation), >a dumb solid (not editable one after the translation), You are such a great educator JD, it is unbelievable! The relationships between the leftover parts would be retained, though you may need to apply new relationships if certain parts were held together by removed parts. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. For example, an assembly with five parts creates a part with five solid bodies. I learn new things pretty much every day. Convert an Inventor Assembly to a single part. Descibe the final use of your "a solid body where I can't change anything". I guess this is logical, in this situation we have 2 ways to go, first one is do not change anything, second one is, if we have to change, we would have to change the part and all files which this part is referenced to, which can be a lot of work and inefficient. Check you have setting properly set "Update physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies)" Create the new empty assembly and save it. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. What I need is to take some parts from subassembly A, some parts from subassembly B, and save those parts as a completely new assembly C. I don't want the assembly->subassembly relationship in the original file to be affected, I just want to create a new subassemly file without having to place and constrain all the individual parts again. Disabled components remain included, however. Then I demote or drag and drop the components from subassembly_A into subassembly_C, then drag and drop the components from subassembly_B into subassembly_C. But in my problem above, I am stating another problem. Use command manageriLogic command to update mass (synchronous - important, otherwise it does not work!). Solved by jmdnq9. Use the Pack and Go functionality for this within inventor! This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Excludes component from the derived part. However, doing this on your existing subassemblies will modify them, which you specifically said you don't want to do. Create and save your assembly Open a new part file Select the Derive tool in the Create section of the 3D Model ribbon Navigate to your saved assembly file on disk Follow the dialog window to set various options depending on your downstream needs. Then I simply promoted the components I needed. Go to Solution. At the component instance level, you can override the structure to be Reference. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Regards, Igor. Can you post some screen shots of what you see? I need to search again for it but I am sure the mass is first written internally to the assembly and the part before it is written to the Physical Property, and there it goes wrong. Parts or components that fit inside the bounding box are removed. Usually, you set this option once as a workflow preference. Navigate to the SAT. https://forums.autodesk.com/inventor-ideas/application-options-changeability-blocking. Report 0 Likes Reply 6 REPLIES Message 2 of 7 jhackney1972 Go to Solution. Accept the default scale factor of 1.0 or enter any positive number. Is it possible to save an assembly and all dependant parts to one single new location ? If you browse to the folder where you are saving the copy of your Assembly, you will see all the little parts being created. (Suppressed components are excluded; this cannot be changed. @johnsonshiueCan you please again take a look at the behavior. Hey, yes and no. A simple save as part would be great for what's needed! Remove parts by size is deselected and the Exclude selector is active. To specify the body or bodies to include, expand the Solid Bodies folder and use the Status button to include or exclude bodies. It's just what you're after, I think. There is only one BOM per assembly. If possible, I would like to see examples. For each of the listed feature types specify which you want to remove and the way you want to remove them: Substitutes are model states based on a simplified model. Here's an example of opening a STEP file (which I know is an assembly) and saving the assembly and its parts to a single location. today we are see how to export all parts & format any assembly watch it open file (Assembly) goto menu click to save as select pack and go select destination folder (path like:. The only thing I expect is that if files are saved and checked into Vault, with the application options on: That the mass is calculated and filled in correctly. Hey, yeah and MLT file have some more edit possibilities to edit but stil not perfect, any suggestions what kind of file best to be using if you dont beed any connectivity to assembly and at the same time very good to edit? Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum, Select the Derive tool in the Create section of the 3D Model ribbon, Navigate to your saved assembly file on disk. ____________________________________________________________. 3D ContentCentral 2D 3D 2D 2,550,431 CAD 2D 3D 2D You can remove geometry by visibility and size to simplify the part. If you must relocate the part later, you can delete the constraint. Report 1 Like Reply Message 3 of 7 cwhetten in reply to: JavaLodge Go to the assembly and save it. Also, any assembly consuming the part will have N/A. So solution is to not use the Application Options for this but write an add-in that does the calculation only if the file is checked out and not Read-only. Ask the community or share your knowledge. Adaptive (controlled by relationships to other assembly components). When I use the Shrinkwrap feature, it turns everything into surfaces. Solution: Check one of the following: Option 1 Open Assembly file. One idea I had was to save copies of subassembly A and subassembly B. You now have a part file that is a dependent copy of an assembly file. Then I saved temporary versions of the subassemblies I had and then used component->replace to input the new subassemblies. Changes in design views do not affect envelope size. You also can click a status icon next to an individual object and toggle the status options. What exactly do you mean by "a solid body where I can't change anything?" I can loop through all the referenced documents and save them to the same directory as the .iam file, but when I save the actual .iam it still saves a copy of everything to the Documents/Inventor. Thanks for pointing out new information, but I think this is a different issue. View. file you have exported from AutoCAD. You can sketch on the face of an assembly component (or an assembly work plane) and include geometry from other assembly components in your feature sketches. Ask the community or share your knowledge. For here internal we have written an add in that will the normal user not allow to change some application options and we have given only the Admin the rights for this. Now it works just fine. Choose from. Can't find what you're looking for? Thanks in advance. Okay lets take the "can't change anything" out of there. Inventor will create an entirely new Assembly, and will create all the new components on disk while creating all the new file paths (hyperlinks) inside the Assembly file. Remove parts by selection (default). I have a script which opens a STEP file, and I do some operations within it, and then I attempt to save it as a .iam file and referenced .ipt/.iam files. Four built-in presets are provided, plus you can create your own. The element renaming follows this pattern: Surface body nodes are renamed "Srf1", "Srf2", and so on, and Surface feature nodes are renamed "Surface1", "Surface2", and so on. It does not update the mass of the top assembly in case there is a save dialog for multiple documents. In principle every feature; Option and tool that is available in Inventor should work with no problem in a Vault Environmenttoo. SolidWork Newbie since 2001-Currently using SW2017 Inventor Newbie since 2019 You can save the assembly as a part, and then it's much easy to deal with in your assembly. Presets assign values to the fields further in the property panel. https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016 You could use the copy tool in the assembly environment. I'm Inventor has a similar feature. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Perhaps you need a dwf or pdf representation. Continue selecting remaining components as needed to exclude them from the simplified part. When you click Create and select a plane on which to sketch, the part environment is activated. Then I click the Save button while in the top level assembly and set subassembly_A and subassembly_B so that they will not save. They are prompted to save, you can even see in above pictures, but TOP assembly does not compute the mass first time, it does on second save (when save dialog is not shown). Do not sell or share my personal information. I hope this helps.Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,Curtishttp://inventortrenches.blogspot.com, Forum links:Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum|Inventor Ideas Forum |General Inventor Forum. Going back to the original Derived Component idea, you can Suppress Link or even Break Link with the original. Because both of the files are dirtied, save dialog will pop up, save them both. .Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor iLogic, API & VBA topics related to programming, creating add-ins, macros, working with the API or creating iLogic tools. I've done a bit of research on it and I don't believe this particular question has been asked before. The option is not available with the Master design view. Optionally, select a built-in preset to use. This is very helpful when for example, dealing with printed circuit board assemblies. Model orientation: The export process looks at the Inventor ViewCube Top and the Inventor Y-axis. Subtracts component from the derived part. For example, an occurrence that is invisible is set to Exclude. Later the parts are updated. This option allows the part to resize or change position if the constraining parameters or components change. To begin, create a part file. In case any of this information is needed, I use: Solved by Curtis_Waguespack. As we all know, geometry is all stored in individual ipt files and it is where the mass is computed based on the geometry. In the property panel, modify any of the following as needed: Initial State - select a different model state, design view, or position view, Components - include or exclude additional parts, Features - add or refine the parameters for features being removed. Creates a derived part with a single surface body. Your choice!!! If it's another solid modeling software (SW, for instance), then STEP. You can override any value. Position. Ask the community or share your knowledge. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Also and more critical that if the file is to be released in Vault that the mass is filled in correctly, this is often not the case. This is the default option. Can anybody explain why this happens or it is a bug? I can upload the .stl version if you would need that. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. To Create a Derived Assembly (not available in Inventor LT) You may also include or exclude sketches, work geometry, and parameters. I hope that the development team is aware! The reduced detail decreases memory consumption. While it is true that a STL file has no connection to the model that produced it (as with STEP), a STL file is no longer usable geometry in Inventor or many other modeling systems. Inventor 2017.4.4 Update: INVGEN-6487: Fixed an issue where Rebuild all on a Frame generator assembly creates multiple Extends in part file INVGEN-13574: The browser node for Flush constraint now updates correctly when working with positional representations (except for Master) and setting values via API or iLogic. Auto-detect locates and highlights the components. Creates a multi-body part that retains selected components as individual solid bodies. AutoCAD, union it all together and export as SAT file again. Click Open to close the Open dialog box. It updates the mass of every sub-component (part or assembly), but not the top assembly, unless there is no save dialog for multiple files. A STEP file has no links to any of its origin files, and if you create a simplified part from an assembly and break the link, there is no longer any tie to the assembly and components. Can't find what you're looking for? This is one of the thing between the theory and the practice. If you want to create a single solid part with no pre-existing features or bodies, choose Finish Sketch when you start the new part to close the default sketch. Do not sell or share my personal information, Activate one of the components/part file in the assembly where the feature appears. For part instances the instance number is iterated which yields "Part1:1", "Part1:2", and so on. Extend Simplification Panel and choose Create simplified Part. New parts can be sketched on the faces of other components that have edges or features needed for the new part. If the base part contains a single body, creates a single body part. The active design view displays. In Inventor - start a new Part file, go Insert-->Import. So, what I think you are asking is to take various parts from certain sub-assemblies and marry them together to formulate yet a different sub-assembly? After you select the components, click Accept Selection. In Solidworks, when I open it, all the parts are solids, when I save it as a part, it remains a solid? If unchecked, the appearance is set to default appearance of the target part. An active selector has a blue highlight at the bottom of the control. I fully agree that this is one of the bigger problems regarding"Dirty files" files that need a save. To translate this article, select a language. If any are needed I will try to demostrate what I need in a smaller demonstration file. Is it possible to convert an assembly into a parts file? Glad you joined us from lurking in the shadows. To translate this article, select a language. How to convert an Inventor Assembly to Part? I tried using pack and go on an assembly. Check your SavePath folder. How take an Autodesk Inventor assembly and simply it to a single part file to one solid body to simplify the modeling. Go to Solution. The source is called the base component. If needed edit the sketch and add dimensions in each part. I can't find the command. No problem about prompting to save, it is OK with us. You may still have to fix a couple of constraints, as promoting and demoting can do some funky things with existing constraints (Inventor does its best to read your mind to know what you want it to do with the constraints, but sometimes it gets it wrong). Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Solved by cwhetten. Can't find what you're looking for? The BOM Structure property defines the status of the component in the BOM. It is because the feature recipes and the parameters are already captured (saved), the mass prop can be evaluated when the geometry becomes up-to-date. So in affect the only changes that are saved are to subassembly_C and the top level assembly. Granted, the OP was, > It would be a lot more useful (for me, at least). Lets say you have found a cad file on google somewhere that you want to be using in your modell, lets say it is an assembly, and you want it to save as a file without connection to anyfiles, if you save it as step or as simplyfy parts even with braket link you still need the whole assembly to drag arround in order to open a single part, and if you want to move it to another map you need to drag all the assemblies part, what i do now i make simple part and then save as STL file in order to completely delite link to the assembly out of this world. Solved by SEC_CAD. Perhaps you can just save the original assembly as a new assembly and simply remove the unwanted parts. The subassemblies and components of them are older version files. Step 19: Save As The hard part is over, the assembly has been made and you've just added a new skill to your tool belt! Then you should have addressed your concern to the OP, not to me. This is done by associating the geometry included from another part, and designate the part as adaptive. If the base part is a multi-body part with more than one body visible, no bodies are displayed in the graphics screen. I have lurked around for quite a bit on the forums, and have learned so much already just from observing. Assembly features are features that show up in the assembly drawing and not in the part file. If a sketch is active when you create the part, click Return to close the sketch. Any CAD program can be used to edit a solid body. Go to Solution. When an assembly is released, it means that all components need to be released (not subject to further change). Activate one of the components/part file in the assembly where the feature appears Create a sketch on the active part file. At least one component must have an Include status. I wish I could mark all of your posts as solutions because I essentially used elements of each to get my new file. Select or hover over "File" then select "Save As." Add Tip Ask Question Download Step 20: Save Assembly This options should at least save proper mass, if you save it once and release it, but it does not, if it is not saved correctly as you described and as in above pictures. Unfortunately, we cannot have both. You can save the assembly in any format (i.e. From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. You can sketch on the face of an assembly component (or an assembly work plane) and include geometry from other assembly components in your feature sketches. I'm going from memory on this process, so you might need to run through cautiously the first time to see if I've forgotten something. I have a script which opens a STEP file, and I do some operations within it, and then I attempt to save it as a .iam file and referenced .ipt/.iam files. i have the same issue, but i don't understand way it need to be so complicated. How can I save the assembly to a folder, and have it save all it's referenced parts/assemblies to that folder as well in a way where I don't have to go back and fix the references? The elements under the Solid Bodies or Surface Bodies folders. Solution: Running a clean uninstall of Inventor 2022 or uninstalling/reinstalling the update (s) typically doesn't resolve the problem. Solved by Curtis_Waguespack. In the Open dialog box, browse to the assembly file (.iam) to use as the base component. They are added to the assembly and placed in the Model States Substitutes folder. What I can remember is that the Mass property shown is stored on two different places internally and there sometimes it goes wrong. The active model state contains the components that define the envelope size. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. A derived assembly may be a scaled, mirrored, or simplified version of the original. I have all files unlocked (ready to be worked on), I shape them as I please, which is OK, then I want to save on TOP assembly, but it does not update the mass of it, eventhough all below assemblies get the mass and also the part. If the Y-axis is perpendicular to the Top plane, the model is rotated so the Inventor Z-axis is perpendicular to the View Cube Top plane. Create a part or a virtual part in an assembly, Multiple components with older versions reference, Do not sell or share my personal information. Create the new part (use random shape) and save it. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved. To my opinion it should either work in Inventor and In an environment with Vault to. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. If the component does not intersect the derived part, the result is no solid. To begin, create a part file. Using the project command select the feature edges wanted in the part file. Click the Associative option to link the simplified model to the design view. This option works, but only if you save it few times (at least 2), BUT if any sub-model is changed after top assembly is released, it will always need to update for the new mass, except if you "quick change" whole structure from changed part and above, which can be really tiem consuming and not effective. Click Options to specify the representations to use in the derived component and then click OK to close the File Open Options dialog box. Works also with just update() command. This sounds like a data management issue. It found the individual ipt files and ipn files for all the relevant assemblies but didnt find the 2D drawing files for the individual parts. Is that an only Inventor Pro function? This is not correct. Update physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies) setting does not work properly. For example: it would be common to "drill and pin at assembly" - two or more parts would be assembled (and possibly adjusted) and then pinned in place. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. The same method can be used for creating your own presets. Create the new empty assembly and save it. If the subtracted component intersects with the part, the result is a cavity. Click OK. You now have a part file that is a dependent copy of an assembly file. In the Derived Assembly dialog box, assembly components appear in a hierarchy. Creates a single solid body derived part with no seams between planar faces. The new part can change size when constrained to fixed geometry in the assembly. While saving select option as surface. Once you have your subassembly C, you can delete the two messed-up copies of subs A and B, and delete the temporary assembly you used to perform the promote and demote functions. The Exclude selector is active option once as a new part ( use random shape ) save... 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