For my 9mm velocity test I would use only Glock pistols. Either one will do the Trick unless it happens to be a VERY RARE ATTACKER who has a super tolerance for pain & Blood loss or is on some kind of super man DRUG!! With a revolver if you get a dud its no big deal. I would probably carry the gun inside the waist. The 25 loads tested characterize a spectrum of what is available today at retail and have representative samples from the least expensive range ammo to the most advanced self-defense loads made for the 9mm round. Great piece. If you were looking for a typical rifle setup, there appears to be no major reason to go above the federal 16" barrel requirement, unless local laws differ, or whatever the case may be. It is also something to consider when deciding on a load to purchase that you know will be used in a variety of pistols for a variety of purposes such as IDPA or 3-Gun. Usually i hear 40 cal ford truck fender blah blah blah. He removed the bottleneck from the predecessors casing to meet the German militarys demand for a larger diameter projectile. Getting back to the point the 9mm gives less recoil and many cops nowadays cant shoot for shit. I've taken black bear with both the 44 mag. That said, the. When I stuck the wire in the hole I was very surprised to see that the bullet had completely penetrated the post, at least 12Read more . That being said, every one raves about the FPS of the 9mm. Later Everyone has their own confidence level and may believe what people tell them or what they read. Better find out. I had the only 45. All this being said, get good with whatever you get, then, just go with. 1100 fps . A picture is worth a 1,000 wordsnewself-defense 9mm ammo opens up to create some nasty possible wound channels to stop attackers in their tracks. :), Here's an old lady's take on it: the best gun/caliber is what YOU shoot best. This is meant to give a clear and uncluttered picture to the consumer or end user in regard to what is currently available off the shelf. So that's another reason why you should get yourself a subnose. Badda Bing, Badda Boom. Besides, small guns can be easily supplemented with an extra mag or two or a back-up gun. Fair & balanced article. I may earn a small part of the sale from links to any products or services on this site. Just saying. n 2014, the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) released a report detailing the potential combat effectiveness of the 9mm cartridge when compared to other calibers such as the .45 ACP and the .40 S&W cartridge that was specifically developed for use by the FBI. These are FBI statistics. If new powders and more advanced bullet designs used helped make the 9mm better then would not the new powders and more advanced bullet designs also then put every other caliber a step up also? What an awesome read. Another important aspect of muzzle velocity is the difference between the speed at the muzzle and the speed at the target. practice once a month, and can do 6" group at 8-10 meters with pistol as far as pretty, get the desert camo and I had money left over for ammo. I hand load so my loads are tailored for each gun. Its the perfect grab-and-go handgun to fire in close quarters where recoil wont pose such a problem. Pew Pew needs to talk to professionals rather than giving amateur opinions. Well, lets take a look at these two rounds and pit them against one another. 1300+ FPS in my Glock 30. Also loud as hell - enough to alert everyone in the house and even if you miss, the intruder is less likely to stick around to hear the mechanics of a pump signaling a second shot is on the way whether they're armed with a piece or a crowbar, unless they intend to harm you, rather than just steal your stuff. Have a place to barricade yourself in, in mind beforehand and think about what you would do yourself if it happened to you. It holds lots of bullets. At the end of the day though, a bigger bullet is theoretically better. The .45 has proven itself, period. Maybe spray and a 30-30 rifle. If you participate these activities, always want to check the listed muzzle velocity (and downrange velocity) of your ammo. As you can see with .357 SIG, which has greater velocity and mass than .45 ACP, it still penetrates less. So, which round actually produces more recoil? Muzzle velocity is simply a measure of the speed of the projectile the moment it leaves the barrel. My advice is practice, practice, practice!! It also delivers additional felt recoil and comes with slightly higher recoil velocity. Once it is dead, it cannot be deader. The lesser destructive force is balanced out by higher accuracy over multiple shots and more ammunition available in states without restrictions. He had a friend that was teaching me to shoot at a campgrounds we used to visit each weekend. American Eagle : https://www.federalpremium.com/ammunition/handgun/caliber/45-auto, Black Hills Ammunition :https://www.black-hills.com/shop/new-pistol-ammo/45-acp/, Blazer Ammo :https://www.blazer-ammo.com/, Buffalo Bore Ammunition :https://www.buffalobore.com/, Federal Premium Ammunition :https://www.federalpremium.com/, Hornady Manufacturing :https://www.hornady.com/store/45-Auto/, Lehigh Defense :https://www.lehighdefense.com/, SIG SAUER Ammunition :https://www.sigsauer.com/products/ammunition/, Speer Ammo :https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/golddot.aspx. This really isn't the place for an in depth spiritual discussion, but your comment was interesting. Your personal guarantee is meaningless. So, even if the 45 "hits harder", that only matters if your on target. However, I am getting an M&P9 2.0 for my daily carry. Do your research. Many handgun enthusiasts believe that bigger is, in fact, better and love everything that the .45 ACP has to offer. And you are citing nothing but your feelings ! Youll do well to pick heavier bullet weights that convey a, The Latin in the 9mms full name is short for. But, because they get less than 12" of penetration in ballistic gel, they are not tested. Glock 43 9mm is my every day carry, IWB. So I purchased big bore gun :D and hope for rapid blood pressure drop which will cause unconsciousness, or that this bullet will go trought and break spine. Use a gun and round that you can shoot well - which takes practice. However, there might not be enough time for all that. Tanks, trucks, rifles, the UK's ability to actually fight a war was incredibly damaged and near unsurvivable had the Germans pressed an attack. 9, 38, 40, 10, 45..they ALL have advantages..I think NONE have a substantial disadvantage. In the case of average muzzle energy for a given caliber, that would be the 9x19mm. Nurses in some states and in some situations and doctors are the only ones that can. This cookie can only be read from the domain they are set on and will not track any data while browsing through other sites. In my under experienced mind, you don't take 4 .45 rounds to the upper body and suffer life threatening injuries.you just plain and simply die. Thank you, however for the work on showcasing the loadsRead more . (Pew Pew Eric) Keep the awesome info coming, I love your emails and love your site! Loss of speed is tied to a concept of ballistic coefficient,. It kills everything else. All handgun wounds will combine the components of penetration, permanent cavity, and temporary cavity to a greater or lesser degree. I have played many scenarios in my head and I always conclude that the proximity of an assailant in the street would be greater than the proximity in a home. Most shooters I knew had taken classes under Jeff Cooper and were total .45 ACP cranks. I carry a Shield or a Glock 26. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. But then a .22 in the eye works to. Provided that you live in a free state, 9mm in 135 HydraShoks or 147 V-Crowns or 147 HSTs hands down . /end of debate. The extension mag wrapped allows for a 'golf grip' & more leverage to handle recoil. Then rinse and repeat as needed. For me, it's an SR1911, an old 4x4 Toyota with a stick, and a Pedulla my choices on all 3 are exactly the same i thought that was oddly coincidental since all 3 are not the most common choices. So, the muzzle velocity of a 2-inch (51 mm) barrel is less than that of a 4-inch (100 mm) barrel, which is less than that of a 6-inch (150 mm) barrel. Fragmentation, on the other hand, does not reliably occur in handgun wounds due to the relatively low velocities of handgun bullets. Ammunition research (from notes Ive made from sources) Go to a range and rent some guns until you find one that you can shoot well. I like that you said that the 9mm pistol is ideal for open and concealed carry. Please take immediate action to change this link and ensure no other articles on Pew Pew Tactical contain links to that dishonest propaganda site. I bet if a poll was done on best semi auto handguns glock would win by a landslide, H&K by far . Some times much faster. Sadly was much shorter than expected. Obviously, the increased velocity will impact terminal ballistic performance. 9mm: having more range, muzzle velocity, more accuracy(depending on the professionalism of the shooter), less recoil, a smaller cal(meaning the gun will have more capacity) and more penetration(Depending on the grain). Something I noticed was that the percentage of loss among all nine millimeter loads between extremes in length was approximately 10%. In states like Connecticut where magazine capacity is limited to 10 rounds, would this restriction alter the debate in any way? (To be fair, felt recoil is more directly connected to muzzle energy, not velocity, but velocity will impact energy.) PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT & decision making! My practice is Steel Challenge for about 14 years + USPSA and Zombie. One important fact is the combat readiness, safety and ease of use of the 1911. I really admire the professional comments that was written. I've finally finished up college and paid off my loans, and I'm ready to get back to the range at least weekly to improve my accuracy now that my budget allows. Modern .45 acp is overkill against most targets (which isn't a bad thing in itself, but better to have the extra capacity if you don't really have to trade a significant reduction in lethality for it). I would have to say that for me I am more accurate with a .45 acp then a 9mm but that may be because the 1911 is a better fit for me and feels better balanced then a polymer 9mm. Spray and pray LOL. For more than 30 years, the Beretta M9 and M9A1 have been the standard sidearm of the US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps. CQB scenarios where youre within the 17 engagements and you want to do work quietly, the .45 ACP has all of the advantages. Is muzzle velocity something you need to be concerned about? Did the "suspects" who had 9mm rounds bounce off of them happen to be wearing red underwear and a big "S" on their chest. (btw; I cast, coat and load 40, 41 & 45 Colt). I have them all. In my .45 version of this test, I ended up with three Sig pistols and a Smith and Wesson. The main reason the military and law enforcement switched to 9mm, is to "accommodate" people (females) with weaker upper body strength. You end up with the same energy as a .223/5.56 but with less risk of over penetration , which is great for a situation like home defense when you cant always know whats on the other side of the wall. Muzzle Energy Calculation You can calculate kinetic energy using the classic formula you memorized in Physics class. Bullet Jacket: Copper. Nobody needs a gun. Physics works whether you're a criminal or a descent citizen. and 45LC with one shot kills, both head shots. So I have 9s by SIG, Beretta, H&K, and Walther. This is simply not true. I used .45 ACP and full load .44 Mag in competition. 9mm is not close. . I am. been there done that.To quote a man who has shot some people"you can kill a man without stopping him and stop a man without killing him" shoot him with a hot 9 that fails to expand due to being plugged with leather jacket and rips through with only say 20% energy transfer or 70 pounds roughly and he is gonna be on you. My favorite, but too heavy for every day is my 4" 41 Mag Smith. Just get both calibers. It must be a nightmare knowing you could be shot by a nutcase at any time, day or night. My preference is 9mm because I know how I'll respond. Thanks for the one sided argument. If you are going to use 5.56 x 45 make sure you get ammo that uses 69 to 77 grain soft or hollow points as they are far more effective than 62 or 55 grain full metal jacket. towards your level. That's up in 10mm territory! It's all about the ammo. The muzzle is the end of a gun's barrel. Soul people go to hell. Let's be honest here, most gun handlers simply do not practice enough to be reliable pistoleers. I cant say how other .40 S&W feel/shoot, but any of my friends that have shot the 96 love its accuracy and low recoil. Modern ammo has not only benefited the 9mm. Muzzle velocity is something youll see on boxes of ammunition and on ballistics stat sheets, but you may not know exactly how muzzle velocity impacts performance. I started my handgun experience as a .40 cal guy. This article has a ton of ballistic coefficient details, The Best Self Defense Ammo Ballistic Testing, .22 Long Rifle Remington Thunderbolt: 1,255, .30-06 Springfield Federal Power-Shok: 2,700, .308 Winchester Super-X Power Point: 2,820, .44-40 Winchester Super-X Soft Point: 1,190, .357 Magnum Hornady Critical Defense: 1,500. Now look at your natural sight picture. Then you have the kids that own that one 9mm pistol they spent $600 on and they think it's the best thing since sliced bread. Same debates have raged on Betamax vs VHS, mustang vs camaro, HD-DVD vs Bluray, etc etc. Im a little bit late to the party, but thanks for this. Haha. -- Ballistics have improved for 9mm simply to make it usable again. My sub compact is 9mm. 45 auto shells cost more too. I had been on the fence regarding 9mm and .45ACP for a long time, then I purchased a couple of different 9mm semi-autos for carry over a few years, with .380 for backup. An official website of the United States government, Department of Justice. now the m1991A normally carries 7 rounds and the model 59 carries 15 but living here in Ca. The more we all know, the better organized and stronger the shooting and hunting community will be. If either 5.56 x 45 or 7.62 x 51 are using hollow points or soft points the damage will be greater. The truth is somewhere in the middle; From weekend plinkers to elite rifle competitors, understanding the basics of muzzle velocity is an essential part of gun ownership and marksmanship. Any cal will work depending on shot placement. I was working off averages that clearly didn't account for the extreme edge of the versatility of the 45 ACP cartridge. The LaserLyte is bore set low to compensate up to 300 yds. . Or does it take a .500 Smith? 300 thousands of an inch diameter more than a 9mm HST.. my 1911 short trigger pull is fast. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. This is criminal. The Army, (of course), received them first. He obviously said that the 9 will penetrate better then the .45 thats why the military adopted it and left the .45 in the past. 9mm loads frequently deliver a muzzle energy greater than 300 ft lbs. Fat & slow or snappy & whimpy Not much of a choice. Not every confrontation is going to be 'range based'. The main argument is basically that once a threat a stopped, it can't really become more stopped. IRead more . Anyway my grandfather died before his friend could teach me more. And that's a good thing!! It's just going to tear stuff up more in there. And because 9mm ammo is so relatively inexpensive, it permits its shooter to practice longer and more often. Or pick up some Federal HST 185 grain 45 ACP, 1140 fps! I couldn't decide, so I bought (built actually)BOTH! you a link to reset your password. I shot IPSC and IDPA 30 years ago. Pulling up graph for 223 one sees energy increasing almost linearly with barrel length up 18 where the graph ends. Josh Wayner has been writing in the gun industry for five years. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. The average civilian self defense shooting ends on average between 2-4 rounds. You fire at the armed person/s and take down the threat. If I am passing through Welfareville and Methport on my way to the Promised Land, My TP 9 with 5 extra loaded 17 round magazines of 115 grain JHP will be with me. Like clipped on the front of your backpack harness or belt, in a manner where it can quickly be retrieved and used. And the proof he show. But in my earlier days, my Gunny (who had that little blue ribbon with the white stars) held up a 1911 in front of we impressionable middies and said, "Gentlemen, this is the Colt .45 pistol, developed in 1911 by St. John Browning. They are often shooting at moving targets who may be taking cover and at the same time the officers are trying to take cover and not get shot themselves (this isn't range shooting). 45ACP. [7] [8] [9] I freeze. (Here are more tips on how to shoot more accurately.). I really hope you were joking with your statement. He paused, held up his pinkie, and said, "And if you hit a man right here," (raising said pinkie), "he's going down." For the latter you need moderate velocity and a bullet that holds it's shape. Actually, we ALL have a soul, but only TRUE Christians (born again believers) have a spirit. A myth that TV and movies have given the world is that American warfighters won WWII, but really the amount of American blood contributed to the war effort was comparably insignificant -- especially compared to the Soviets. Bigger holes are better ones. A .357 magnum round can have similar effects. Velocity / Muzzle Energy Test Results. . (All listings are fps). However, that damage is effectively wasted since the cartridges were designed so that they worked as ball ammo. Not a lick of science in this article. Well it will make holes in bad guy/rabbid dog I am confident that I can stop attack with .22LR cause I can shoot 8 rounds in about 3 secconds center body mass, palm size group. I agree with you completely,I like and have both -a DW Guardian in .45 and a sig p365 9mm for carry.The choice on which to carry depends upon where I am carrying and why for that day.I believe the ability to have both options covers more scenarios.Great info BTW. I could not sell my 9 mm fast enough If so, another one which should lead to enough blood pressure drop to lose consciousness. I shoot the 1911 platform better than any semi auto or revolver Ive ever shot. Second, our judges demand, that each shot has to be beforethought = you can shoot perp once and then you have to evaluate, if he stoped his attack. That is just simply a foolish claim to make. What I am saying is 9mm is a better round in all the metrics that matter. Since the shooter is the main determinant in any weapons efficacy for self-defense, that is possibly the 9mm greatest strength. I was surprised because the gun twisted in my palm about 1/2" or more to my left with a sharp pinging sound that was not very comfortable to my ears. I'm just a regular guy, but shot placement would rule my decision. Installed by Google Analytics, _gid cookie stores information on how visitors use a website, while also creating an analytics report of the website's performance. If you are going to use that short of a barreled P.C.C. What I read about that encounter sickened me. The Glock is my every day carry. . That would be 1,2,3,4,5 to stop the threat and the rest to miss with. I will always favor 45 Acp over 9mm. Uninterested folks will take it as fact and have a incorrect understanding of life past and present. For reasons I can't quite explain, this particular powder just didn't get along with that rifle. And yet after reading all the evidence about the benefits of 9mm and I'm already heavily invested in 9mm (and happy with it) I'm still looking at buying a 1911 because it seems everyone feels like they have to own at least one. Most ATTACKERS even if not mortally wounded will address thier WOUND TRY to save THIER LIFE & not get SHOT Again!! My first thought is: .45 is better because it's bigger. Calibre has very little to do with it. Thank you! A shift to the right or left could clear the background behind them. The domestic manufacture of war material was not remotely able to resupply the entire UK armed forces. I still posses a .45 among my various handguns, and I still enjoy shooting with it. With the latest 9mm defensive rounds it's come down to choice not effectiveness. As to increased penetration, this is only really a concern for LE. A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States. Don't know about explode, but a good hollow point will EXPAND. More velocity, bigger size, more magazine capacity, great penetration, manageable recoil, compact frame. Bullets which do not trike the target are worthless for self defense and represent a real danger to innocent bystanders. Physics got us to the moon, Im pretty sure it can calculate which bullet is more lethal. Practicing at a public range is not ideal. It squirts so much flame out the sides it would scare an attacker half to death. Testing conditions were 50 degrees Fahrenheit with full sunlight. It is inherently easy to remove from safe to fire and the safety is constructed well. My 45 acp has a muzzle velosity of 1000 fps 510 foot lbs. 9mm is the way to-go. An unmoving target is pretty easy to hit again if needed. The velocities displayed are an average taken from six readings. Did four years of our fighting? If you had a slightly larger gun with a magazine holding seven or eight rounds (or more, such as a double-stack with 10, like a Glock 26) was available, you'd essentially have plenty (in most cases). It is heavy and rattles, and the bullet is fat, short, and slow." doubled in sizeand since .45 ACP is bigger to start with, it became massive in the end. Measurements are the opposite of vague . I hear you. or 38 & 45 both. Subsonic for a bullet is slow . Best argument I ever heard was, even if your hollowpoint fails to expand, a .45 will always punch a .45 hole. If YOU Do!! Speed is an important factor for ballistic performance, impacting accuracy, trajectory, energy, and penetration. Thank you. When you actually test the loads on living breathing targets (like the Strasbourg test) , that (to me) is the best indicator. He survived wounds to the chest, back, both arms and both legs. What ends an engagement is being able to walk away from it. God bless. For a carry I use a compact 45. Rightfully, the 9mm counter argument is that there is no such thing. This is the true speed that the bullet is capable of traveling when fired from a standard handgun in good working order. Vimeo installs this cookie to collect tracking information by setting a unique ID to embed videos to the website. Fortunately plenty exists. The day after the craziness was all over and the police had finished up and gone, the body was gone and everyone was kinda trying to figure out what to do next, the homeowner took stock of the surroundings in the room where he had shot the intruder. by the FBI, the 9mm was preferred in the field because of the following: LEOs have a 20% to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important. It shows you like 9m you talk about both but talking about 45 it was more about 9m but talking about 9m it was 9m but I enjoyed to know it so me both. Unless you through simple logic out the window, the 45 does more damage. It's much quicker to spray left to right or right to left in front of you than get a gun out. No, youre not . But personally I would have both a BIG gun like 44 Magnum and spray, not one or the other. Will still have a long-range, full length rifle or carbine slung over my shoulder tooWhy compromise when it comes down to multiple enemies wanting you dead or wanting to taste your brain? You cant beat the trigger on a .45 1911. And if USA made the job in the Pacific, in Europe it was USSR, for WW2. Since defensive rounds aren't an option, you'll want the highest grain bullet you can get, in a soft point wadcutterwhich I don't think are even available in 9mm or .45 ACP. By Josh Wayner An average muzzle velocity of 9mm ammunition, that being the energy the bullet leaves the barrel with, is around 1,200 feet per second (commonly abbreviated as fps or ft/s). I like the beef of an ACP. Large naval guns will have high length-to-diameter ratios, ranging between 38:1 to 50:1. a G43 to an AR15 fight. Their testing shows seven 9mm rounds that equal or exceed 500 ft lb, with 4 hitting between 511 and 540 ft lb. 230 grain .45 +p at 950fps is moving at least as fast as the 9mm subsonic 147 grain round. Luger presented his new round to both Great Britain and the U.S. before it was adopted by the Imperial German Navy in 1904 and the German Army four years later. Everyone wants to put down the 45 and take up the 9 because they wont take the time and energy to get proficient with the 45, and if you are too weak or candy a## you never will master the 45. -- Ask countless military and police and they will tell you 9mm is not always enough. I bought a 9mm because during this last ammo shortage my ammo was hard to find but I could get the 9mm no problem. Than 300 ft muzzle velocity 9mm change this link and ensure no other articles on Pew Pew contain. 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